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Qwen3 VL 235B A22B Thinking

Alibaba Qwen · September 2025

A community version of another maker's model that reads pictures as well as text.

Rating
4.0
Downloads
2.4K
Likes
52
Parameters
235B, 22B active
Context
256K
Licence
apache-2.0

Too big for this Mac

Its smallest size needs 171 GB of memory, more than M4 · 16 GB can give it.

Ratings

4.0 out of 5, across people's blind votes on its answers.

Text
1395
Coding
1452
Vision
1200

LM Arena ratings of October 28, 2026 (CC BY 4.0): people vote between two answers without knowing which model wrote which. The bar ends at 1488, the best any open model has. The Arena tests the full model; a small size on a Mac answers a little worse.

Qwen3 VL 235B A22B Thinking runs well from a Mac with an M2 Ultra and 192 GB of memory. 5 of 59 Mac configurations run it well. It is a re-tune or merge made by someone other than the original model's maker, so its ratings, where it has any, are its own.

Compare with

The nearest models in size.

Sizes

From Qwen/Qwen3-VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-GGUF on Hugging Face. A smaller size is a smaller download and a little less accurate.

SizeDownloadMemory at 8KGet
Qwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-split142 GB143 GBestimatedOpen
Q8_0250 GB251 GBestimatedOpen
Qwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-F16-split470 GB471 GBestimatedOpen

Run It Anywhere

Qwen3 VL 235B A22B Thinking is an open model, so any app that runs GGUF files can run it. These take the Qwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-split size from Qwen straight from Hugging Face.

  • LM StudioMac, Windows, LinuxOpen
  • JanMac, Windows, LinuxOpen
  • MstyMac, Windows, LinuxOpen
  • OllamaMac, Windows, Linuxollama run hf.co/Qwen/Qwen3-VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-GGUF:Qwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-split
  • llama.cppMac, Windows, Linuxllama-server -hf Qwen/Qwen3-VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-GGUF:Qwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-split
  • Docker Model RunnerMac, Windows, Linuxdocker model run hf.co/Qwen/Qwen3-VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-GGUF:Qwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-split
On a PC Graphics Card
Video memoryLargest size that fitsDownloadMemory at 8K
6 GBNone worth runningneeds 143 GB
8 GBNone worth runningneeds 143 GB
10 GBNone worth runningneeds 143 GB
11 GBNone worth runningneeds 143 GB
12 GBNone worth runningneeds 143 GB
16 GBNone worth runningneeds 143 GB
20 GBNone worth runningneeds 143 GB
24 GBNone worth runningneeds 143 GB
32 GBNone worth runningneeds 143 GB
48 GBNone worth runningneeds 143 GB

The largest size, of those that keep three bits a weight or more, whose memory at an 8K chat is under 92% of the card's; the rest is the desktop's. Estimated from the files, the same way as for a Mac; speed on a PC is not estimated yet. A size that doesn't fit the card still runs, slower, with part of it in ordinary memory.

On every Mac
MacSizeFitMemoryWrites
M6 · 16 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M6 · 24 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M6 · 32 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 · 16 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 · 24 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 · 32 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 Pro · 24 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 Pro · 48 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 Pro · 64 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 Max · 36 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 Max · 48 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 Max · 64 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 Max · 128 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 Ultra · 96 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M5 Ultra · 256 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitRuns great171 GB21
M5 Ultra · 512 GBQ8_0Runs great279 GB17
M4 · 16 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M4 · 24 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M4 · 32 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M4 Pro · 24 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M4 Pro · 48 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M4 Pro · 64 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M4 Max · 36 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M4 Max · 48 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M4 Max · 64 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M4 Max · 96 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M4 Max · 128 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 · 8 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 · 16 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 · 24 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 Pro · 18 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 Pro · 36 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 Max · 36 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 Max · 48 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 Max · 64 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 Max · 96 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 Max · 128 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 Ultra · 96 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M3 Ultra · 256 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitRuns great171 GB12
M3 Ultra · 512 GBQ8_0Runs great279 GB9.8
M2 · 8 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M2 · 16 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M2 · 24 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M2 Pro · 16 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M2 Pro · 32 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M2 Max · 32 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M2 Max · 64 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M2 Max · 96 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M2 Ultra · 64 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M2 Ultra · 128 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M2 Ultra · 192 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitRuns well150 GB12
M1 · 8 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M1 · 16 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M1 Pro · 16 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M1 Pro · 32 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M1 Max · 32 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M1 Max · 64 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M1 Ultra · 64 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB
M1 Ultra · 128 GBQwen3VL-235B-A22B-Thinking-Q4_K_M-splitToo big171 GB

Writes is words a second, estimated from the Mac's memory speed and the model's size; how, and how wrong.

Packaged by

2 repositories on Hugging Face carry this model for llama.cpp. Outmake reads them all as one model.

Information

Maker
Alibaba Qwen
Released
September 2025
Parameters
235B, 22B active
Longest chat
256K tokens
Reads pictures
Yes
Licence
apache-2.0
Downloads this month
2,449
Likes
52
Sizes
3, 142 to 470 GB
Kind
Community version

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Shows on Qwen3 VL 235B A22B Thinking's Hugging Face card which Macs run it well, linked to this page. It updates every morning.

Runs on Mac badge

Files, downloads and likes read from Hugging Face on November 5, 2026 and refreshed every morning. Memory and speed are estimates until someone running Outmake measures this model on that Mac.

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